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Prophecy or Words of knowledge?

IMG_4319Doug Addison mentioned that words of knowledge are better than prophetic words. Why do you think he said that? What is the difference between a prophetic word and a word of knowledge? What has been your experience with these? What else affected you about Doug’s teaching?

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  1. bellejcorn

    I will answer this in parts.
    What is the difference between a prophetic word and a word of knowledge?
    Doug shared John 1:45 – 50 to give an excellent example of how Jesus used a word of knowledge together with a prophetic word. Jesus first tells Nathaniel about his character. “Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom there is no deceit!” Jesus then says, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.” These are words of knowledge. Jesus then gives him a word of prophecy. “Truly, truly, I say to you, you will see the heavens opened and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man.” He opens Nathaniel’s eyes to believe and follow Him.

    A word of knowledge is a specific piece of information that God reveals to someone that he/she could not have known naturally. With a word of knowledge God shows His personal knowledge of an individual and His desire for intimacy with him or her. God shows us exactly to whom to speak.

    A word of prophecy is an impression that God may have something to say specifically to a specific individual or group at a specific time. It is for edifying, strengthening, counseling. It is usually about the future (but not always.) God gives the word to get you to hold on and not give up; to guide you into your destiny.

  2. bellejcorn

    Part 2: Doug Addison mentioned that words of knowledge are better than prophetic words. Why do you think he said that?
    I agree with this comment. In another teaching, Doug referred to a word of knowledge as a “spiritual pry bar.” I believe that words of knowledge can break open any closed door, aka person. That is what this is all about. We are finding ways to speak what’s in God’s heart for individuals as we go about our daily lives. People are seeking, and people are open to hearing from God. But we have to be open and culturally relevant or they will not be interested in what we have to say.

    Prophetic words are not so “solid.” They don’t necessarily set the hook like words of knowledge do. Prophecy speaks to the future; we speak into their destiny. A prophetic word can encourage someone to stay the course or to take that first step. But it’s not immediately clear.

    1. Robin Sukow

      Bella I agree with your statement,” I believe that words of knowledge can break open any closed door”. i would modify it to ‘can break open most doors’ in that the person it is delivered to, has to be in some stage of need or readiness; exemplified in your reference. Nate was read, he was seeking. Granted when people are in these states is when they are more effective. rs <

      1. Robert Holden

        I agree with “most”. Recently, I have had several good (healing) experiences with knees and ankles. However, I was unable to heal a good Christian friend’s ankle. She doesn’t believe in healing for herself :(.

    2. Cheekjulie

      I also agree with Doug that a word of knowledge is better. A word of knowledge penetrates the heart, because God is demonstrating His awareness and acceptance of the person. The state of a persons heart affects how they will receive from God.

  3. bellejcorn

    Part 3. What has been your experience with these?
    In thinking about this question, I initially felt that at this point, I was more comfortable with words of knowledge. My first “THIS IS FOR REAL” word of knowledge was such an awesome experience. It came as a incredible pain in my foot. The pain came out of nowhere as I simply stood. In fact, I yelped out in pain. I called it out, but the young man next to me had no foot pain. He did, however, suffer chronic back pain from a fall down stairs. He agreed to let us pray for his back, and his pain dropped from a 7 to a 2 or 3. We prayed again and the pain left completely.
    But then I thought about my experiences during the outreach with Doug. It gave me all kinds of new confidence. I enjoyed engaging people in the “No pressure” atmosphere. I loved the excitement of the girl with the nose ring when I spoke of her keen sense about people. And I loved talking zombies with a young man who felt the words our team spoke to him were spot on for something happening in his life that very day.
    Whether it is a word of knowledge, a prophetic word, a dream interpretation, or reading a tattoo or body piercing, it’s all about being open and approachable. People are spiritually hungry, and we have what they are seeking. We aren’t changing the message of Jesus, but we are changing the approach we use to start the conversation.

    1. jdcruz3

      Thanks for sharing your cool testimonies about the street outreach with Doug Addison. Very exciting!

      I have a question about the word of knowledge testimony that you shared. I’m so grateful to God that the young man’s pain left! What happened with the strong pain in your foot?

      1. bellejcorn

        Thank you for asking!
        As soon as we engaged the young man, the pain disappeared. We didn’t run into anyone with foot pain all evening, but we did find another man with back pain. I’m sure you know what happened next!
        We shared the testimony of the first man, prayed for the second man, and celebrated his healing as well! Thank you, Jesus.

    2. pickenroses (Sarah)

      That is an interesting story about the pain in your foot! I will keep this testimony in mind to remember that a word of knowledge might apply differently than expected (e.g. pain on your foot was alerting you not to a hurting foot but a hurting back). Thank you for sharing!

    3. Cheekjulie

      I also like the approach Doug uses. Christians should be known for hospitality & not hostility. Peace; goodwill toward men

      1. Robert Holden

        Yes, Julie. If the greatest spiritual gift is love then we should be known for hospitality. We should be men and women of shalom. We should listen and hear people. We should be chain breakers and wall builders.

  4. jdcruz3

    Yes, I agree that a word of knowledge is usually some sort of knowledge that you couldn’t possibly know in the natural. It is revealed supernaturally by the heart of God. Chad Dedmon tells of the time he was at the Houston Astrodome during the Hurricane Katrina crisis. A world-wide known celebrity was there encouraging the hurricane victims. God gave Chad a word about a red bicycle from her childhood, which he had no way of knowing other than from Jesus. This knowledge quickly opened up a door for him to get beyond her bodyguards and speak directly to her about the Lord. That is pretty powerful stuff! From a powerful, loving God who wants us to know HIM!

    1. thefineartoflistening

      This is a great example of just how powerful a word of knowledge can be.

  5. jdcruz3

    Here’s an experience I had with a prophetic word, which might also be considered a word of knowledge: a few years ago I was ministering in the Healing Rooms of Monterey Bay in Santa Cruz, CA. An emotionally distressed woman who was in a difficult marriage to an addict came in to receive prayer. The Lord showed me to tell her that He saw her as a “pearl of great price.” I wrestled with telling her that, because at the time my understanding of Jesus’ parable in Matthew 13:45-46 was that the pearl represents the kingdom of heaven, not individual people. But I knew enough about the Lord to know that even if a word doesn’t seem to make sense to me, to go ahead and give it anyway because the Holy Spirit may use it. As soon as I told the woman that God wanted her to know that she was a “pearl of great price” to Him, she immediately fell on her knees weeping! I was shocked and didn’t know what happened! When she was more calm she shared that God had just told her that very same word that morning, and for Him to confirm it through a stranger really helped her to know that He was with her in her trial! Not too long after that encounter, without me really asking Him more about it, Jesus revealed to me in something I was reading that He really does value individuals as a “pearl of great price!”

    1. thefineartoflistening

      God is gracious and gives you exactly what you need in every specific situation.

    2. pickenroses (Sarah)

      I love testimonies like this! What a personal intimate touch from the Lord for the lady you were ministering to!

  6. thefineartoflistening

    I think that neither is better or worse. I think the best one is the gift that the Holy Spirit is leading someone to use in any specific time for that a specific person in their specific situation needs. In the example that Doug gave, a word of knowledge was obviously the most powerful option at that particular time, for that particular situation. There are no Spiritual Gift formulas. I feel Doug mentioned this because this is what God was showing Doug, as Doug studied the Biblical text of the Gospels. In my experience, sometimes a simple hug breaks through all the barriers in a more powerful way than a word of knowledge or a prophetic word. Sometimes, giving someone a ride whose car is broke down is the most powerful option. I’m not saying those are better, but in certain situations they are. When Jesus washes His Disciples’ feet, that is supernatural. In my personal opinion, those acts are supernatural. Just as supernatural as prophecy, words of knowledge, miracles, signs and wonders. I enjoyed Doug a lot. Probably the best guest speaker, as far as his presence up front.

    1. karen

      I agreed that neither is better or worse. It is about staying a half step behind the Holy Spirit and going where He is leading. That is what will touch someone’s heart and break down barriers. Meet them where they are at, that is what God does best!

    2. RobThePrince

      From Lisa: We can see patterns. We can learn from them. But I really appreciate your reminder that there are no formulas. And because we serve a God who often uses simple things to confound the wise, even very simple acts sometimes have a huge impact.

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  7. pickenroses (Sarah)

    Words of knowledge demonstrate to someone that God sees him or her personally and specifically, most often pointing out something the person already knows to be fact. Prophetic words, while encouraging, are not as easily verifiable, as they are usually speaking of the future or a part of someone’s identity they are not sure about yet.

    The words of knowledge I’ve received so far have been feeling a person’s pain or emotion that I otherwise would have been unaware of. Sometimes pain in an area of someone’s body is highlighted to me by a non-painful physical sensation in the same area of my body. I’ve seen someone receive instant healing from me praying for them after I got a word of knowledge like that.

    Three things stand out to me about Doug’s teaching. One was his concept of “flip it and flip it good.” This has not only been an encouraging way to deal with negative dreams but has radically changed my feelings and understanding of negative symbols in tattoos, on clothing, etc. Another thing that stood out to me was Doug’s symbolic lens for seeing meaning not only dreams but all of life. My mind loves to think this way, so it was very exciting and inspiring to have my eyes opened to the significance and meaning behind things in life that might go unnoticed. I realized the Author of creation is even more skillful and intentional that I thought! Thirdly, was the simple everybody-can-easily-do-this attitude that Doug has toward dream interpretation. I loved the way he helped us not to get bogged down in details, so that we could convey the concise, clear message the Lord is speaking in a particular dream.

    1. jdcruz3

      Sarah, since you are young you may not know that when Doug says “flip it, flip it good” he’s doing a play on words with a 1980 New Wave hit song called “Whip It” by a band called Devo. Made me laugh every time I heard him say it! The song actually debuted at a live concert in 1979 in Santa Cruz! Here are some of the funny lyrics:

      When a problem comes along
      You must whip it
      Before the cream sits out too long
      You must whip it
      When something’s going wrong
      You must whip it

      It’s not too late…
      Now whip it
      Whip it good!

  8. Suki

    A Word of Knowledge is a supernatural revelation of fact about a person or situation, which is not learned through the efforts of the natural mind , but freely given by God, disclosing the truth which the Spirit wishes to be made known concerning a particular person or situation. The purpose is for the person to see how God knows, loves and is thinking about then. It should always encourage, edify and comfort those receiving.
    A Prophetic Word should always confirm what is already felt in someones heart, what God is saying or has shown in His word. It is not our job to interpret what we hear from God, but to only speak it. It is usually about something in the future.
    I agree with Doug’s statement ” word of knowledge is better” because it speaks to the present heart of someones situation for encouragement & comfort.
    I really liked Doug’s attitude and philosophy of flipping all things dark, negative or demonic to the love and heart of God for others. Another demonstration of taking back what the enemy has stolen, counter-fitted and distorted. Seeing clearly that it all came from our Creator, been won back by Jesus and we just need to take it by speaking life, light and love into everything. This creates so much faith, optimism and love for others, devoid of all fear and suspicion.

  9. Robert Holden

    Words of knowledge are better than prophetic words. Why do you think he said that?
    I think Doug’s focus is on nearly instant connection with others. A word of knowledge is much more likely to provide that connection and openness. I prefer a word of knowledge for similar reasons to Doug’s. It is also more satisfying to me to get nearly immediate feedback about the accuracy of the word. However, sometimes the two are hard to distinguish. 1Cor 12:11 “All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who distributes different gifts to different people just as he chooses.” As in the body example, we need all the manifestations of the Spirit. If Holy Spirit chooses to give us something, I don’t want to be saying I’d rather have something else. I am developing trust in Holy Spirit to give me what is best at the time and to accept what I’m given.

    What is the difference between a prophetic word and a word of knowledge? What has been your experience with these?
    I think these two questions are easier to answer together. My experience with words of knowledge as they relate to healing has been very positive. At the last HEM, I was in one of the groups within the sanctuary. We were assigned to many who raised hands about having symptoms related to a stated word of knowledge. It was very rewarding to enter those encounters expecting healing and we observed it! Those were cases of someone else’s words of knowledge that encouraged our faith and the faith of those who heard the word. I’ve never experienced a pain that was a word of knowledge for another, or at least, I never acted on it. An example in my past was praying for a woman with a sore back. I was given a picture of her adult son. As I tried to describe him to her she broke down crying. Healing of her relationship with him was her real burden and the back ache was a symptom. The word of knowledge helped bring real healing. Another type of word of knowledge that I experience is related to intercessory prayer for that person. I sometimes am given a word of knowledge: they are breaking up with their girlfriend, they didn’t get the job, they are sick, etc. Immediately it helps me to know how to pray for them. It seems a little prophetic until, sometimes weeks or months later; I talk with the person and find that it was true. How would you classify prayer? You speak to God and He speaks back. Is that knowledge if you didn’t know the answer? Non-Christians who pray often are drawn to Him because He is something bigger and outside of them, loving, and gives them things (like knowledge). Prophetic words can sometimes overlap with exhortation or with knowledge. Years ago I was given a vision of a 15 to 20 minute conversation with another person, word for word. A few hours later I went through the conversation. My words came out pretty naturally but some parts were purely from memory. The others person’s words were fluid and exact. I don’t remember a single change in wording. It really helped me get closer to that person. The exact foreknowledge was prophetic. But the discussion was about astronomy of which I had almost no knowledge while it was a particular interest to the other. My answers were therefore words of knowledge because I knew almost nothing about which I was speaking. What was God’s purpose in that conversation? It did not seem related to Him, it did not lead to a lasting relationship, it did not bring the body closer together. I do not understand. It did bring me closer to God but a funny way for Him to get my attention.

    What else affected you about Doug’s teaching?
    Doug spoke strongly about staying within the sphere of influence that God puts you in—not to despise God’s gift or to despise small beginnings. This teaching helped me appreciate more fully the house church I’m in and the people I come in contact with at work and in the homeless ministry. “How about the earthquake we didn’t have?” His example/thought encouraged me to pursue intercessory prayer that may not have startling visible outcomes and yet may change the world significantly.

  10. karen

    Since the people that answered before about the differences of Word of Knowledge vs Prophecy are what I would say, I will answer what I came away with regarding Doug. I work a lot with people who have piercings and tattoos. I rarely talked about those with them. It has opened me up to introduce conversations about the heart of God as they relate to a persons piercing or tat. It has allowed me to give prophetic words to convey the love of God to someone who may otherwise have “scared away” me (or others like me..ie non-tattoo/non piercing people) from really delving deeper. I have talked with a lot of people since hearing Doug, about their “art” and then sharing what God wants to tell them. Many are touched and responded very softly to the love of God, because I took an interest in their art.

  11. RobThePrince

    Message from Lisa who can’t post directly:
    We live in human society, surrounded by family members and coworkers and people in line in front of us at the grocery store. But we are so alone. So aware that others see only the outside, the self we choose to show. We often don’t even know our own hearts. We may be strangers to ourselves. We hope with all our secret hope that there might be a benevolent God of some kind. There is a deep yearning to be a part of something bigger than our own isolated selves. So we join churches and movements and fill our lives with busyness. We distract ourselves and we keep moving. But then —- someone offers a word. It comes fresh from Father’s heart. It is right and true. It has the aroma of Heaven about it. It may be a factoid. It may be profound. It may be accompanied by physical sensation or healing, or not. It may be the first glimmer of light. It may be the answer to long- asked questions. But it was hand-crafted by a loving, knowing Father. One kind of word isn’t better than another kind. The tool God chooses is the right tool.

  12. Lawrence Martinez

    DIRECT RAYS TO THE SOUL
    STRAIGHT FROM THE LORD FOR FREE
    INFO RECEIVED ON THE SPOT FOR GLEE
    JOY BUBBLES OVER TO YOU FROM HE
    HE WHO TRANSCENDS AND SENDS DATA THAT BENDS
    OUR MINDS
    AND FINDS WAYS TO AMAZE AND NEVER ENDS
    SCHOLARLY FACTS THAT YOU CAN’T LEARN IN COLLEGE
    STRAIGHT UP HARDCORE FACTS
    FROM HIM
    WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE

    PROPHECY, ON THE OTHER HAND IS LIKE TRIAGE SUPREME
    YOU CAN FILL UP HEARTS BY ADDING FUEL TO THEIR DREAMS
    SEEING THE RAD, NO ATTENTION TO BAD
    PROPHETIC DOETH GET IT, WE GET IT FROM DAD
    I SUPPOSE THE PROSE SPOKEN HERE GOES HAND IN HAND
    ONE CAN PROPHECY OVER ONE PERSON OR ONE LAND
    PROPHECY DOESN’T MEAN HAL LINDSEY OR LEFT BEHIND
    NO OFFENSE BUT THE FENCE THAT DIVIDES JUST DIRTIES THE MIND
    PROPHECY BLOWS ANY PSYCHIC READINGS OUT THA DOOR
    NO MEDIUM CAN FOOL BY CITING AKASHIC RECORDS, WHAT’S MORE
    ANY INFO COMING IN FROM ENTITIES DARK
    ONLY DRAW FROM THE PAST AND THEY CANNOT SPARK
    WHAT’S TO COME, THAT REALMS BELONGS TO THE SON
    SPEAK PROPHETICALLY, LIGHT EVERYONE UP, WELL DONE
    IT’S UP TO US TO SEE WHAT GOD, NOT LAW, CAN SEE
    SPEAK CLEARLY INTO OTHERS, GOD’S HEART, THAT’S PROPHECY

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